The MMABay Sunday Supplement: UFC 120: For And Against
Whenever the UFC graces the shores of the British Isles, there always seems to be a bone of contention. While fans occasionally bemoan locations and ticket prices, by far the biggest grievance amongst the UK faithful is the perceived quality of cards on our shores. UFC 120 has thrown yet more fuel onto the fire…
I must admit, I was a little disappointed when I heard the news that the upcoming UFC 120 at the O2 Arena in London would be headlined by Yoshihiro Akiyama and Michael Bisping. With the likes of Anderson Silva, Vitor Belfort, Rashad Evans, Rampage Jackson, Lyoto Machida, Brock Lesnar, Cain Velasquez and more all potentially free around October time, it’s not too difficult to see why fans are up in arms. Hell, we’d even take Liddell-Ortiz 3.
It’s not as simple as the UK fans being shafted, though. Anyone who thinks that the UFC would be intentionally dissatisfying their second most lucrative foreign market (outside of Canada) needs to ask themselves one question: Why? There’s a lot to be said about the situation as it stands, so in the interest of fairness I’m putting my own personal biases aside in an attempt to present an impartial look at the pro’s and con’s of UFC 120.
FOR: It looks, on paper at least, to be a fantastic night of fights. For all his perceived faults, Michael Bisping has rarely, if ever, been in a dull fight. Neither has Yoshihiro Akiyama: the other half of the main event. The two men match up extremely well and should make for three rounds of all-out action, come October.
On a similar note, there isn’t a more exciting fight in the welterweight division right now than Dan Hardy vs Carlos Condit. Both are all-action, no-quit, balls-to-the-wall fighters who leave everything in the cage; this one has value for money written all over it. John Hathaway vs Dong-Hyun Kim is all kinds of awesome, Travis Browne vs Cheick Kongo will be a ballet of violence. The debuts of Tom Blackledge against James Te-Huna, Kurt Warburton against Spencer Fisher and big Rob Broughton against Vincent Quieroz are all excellent match-ups, albeit featuring fighters you may not have seen before. Hey, everyone has to have their first UFC fight somewhere, right?
For roughly £100 you can sit halfway down the bottom deck of the O2. As we saw with UFC 95, an even weaker card on paper, you don’t need big names for great fights. Simply put, if you enjoy exciting fights, UFC 120 looks like it won’t let you down. Add in the very first UK Fan Expo, and October looks like it could be a great month for British fight fans.
AGAINST: Let’s be honest, the main event is not comparable to the average numbered UFC, is it? The UFC insists on keeping the UK shows as part of the numerical cannon, yet the ‘star power’ often falls some way short of their domestic efforts. It’s all about perception; call the British cards “Ultimate Fight Night UK” (UFC’s UK President Marshall Zelaznik has previously hinted at ‘Fight Nights’ on our shores) and adjust the ticket prices accordingly and fan expectations won’t be as high.
British fans’ faith in the UFC is dealt another blow with each ‘non-Main Event’ we get. We’re promised big fights; we’re promised title shots; so of course there is going to be a backlash if the UFC doesn’t come through. Check out this video of a conversation between MMABay’s Michael Pepper and Dana White from January 2009:
Michael Pepper: “Do you think we’ll get a title fight over here in 2009…”
Dana White (interrupting): “Absolutely, we will.”
MP: “…because the UK scene has missed the title fights…”
DW: “Absolutely”
MP: “…we’ve not had one since January 2008…”
DW: “You’re right.”
MP: “…BJ Penn vs Joe Stevenson. We’ve had a number of cards since…”
DW: “Yep, that is true…uh…and the answer is yes. Yes, we will get a big title fight over here.”
The answer is yes. We will get a big title fight. Nothing in the world will hurt consumer confidence more than broken promises.
WHY?: So why are fans in the UK getting supposedly second-rate cards? As usual, it can all be traced back to the mighty dollar. Firstly, the UFC’s marquee fighters reportedly don’t like fighting in the UK due to a lack of PPV-related income, which many of them have written into their contracts. The UFC would have to make up that lost income, and it’s just not financially viable. People point to the Abu Dhabi event as evidence of UFC champions fighting overseas on a tape-delayed PPV, but it’s an unfair comparison. The first couple of UK cards had comparable line-ups, and Zuffa’s Middle Eastern investors had financial input in the card.
The other big factor in all of this is ticket sales; the UFC still does very well at the UK box office (not to mention cleaning up at the merchandise stands), despite having a less than fantastic 12 months in their home nation. Check out these figures for a comparison:
- UFC 106: 6,631 tickets sold, 3,898 given away.
- UFC 108: 8,004 tickets sold, 4,373 given away.
The argument could be made that both cards lost out on last-minute ticket sales after their headline bouts fell through, but compare that to UK ticket sales and there is an alarming difference. UFC 95, with its ‘weak’ line-up, sold nearly 14,000 seats. UFC 85 did over 15,000. UFC 105 sold just short of 17,000 tickets. The fact is, the UK is an absolute goldmine for the UFC at the box office and as long as it remains that way, do not expect anything to change in terms of the quality of the cards.
There are a couple of schools of thought from most UK fans as to the best course of action to take. The first is to vote with their wallets. This comes up before every UK card, and each time they still sell an incredible number of tickets. This tells us one of two things, either the people claiming that they won’t be buying a ticket are doing it anyway, or that it’s only a very small vocal minority of online fans that are unhappy with the cards we’re getting.
Another interesting solution, as put forward by MMABay reader ‘Kiss_saves_santa’, is following boxing’s lead by starting UK events in the early hours of Sunday morning, so as to synch up with the regular PPV times in the US. Manchester put on a shuttle bus link from the MEN to the train station for the Ricky Hatton vs Kostya Tszyu fight and Birmingham, Newcastle and Liverpool all have big city centre venues, so the logistics are certainly there. Here’s the issue though: Is the UFC big enough in the UK for fans to pay a premium to attend a show that doesn’t finish until 6am. Any takers on that one?
One thing is for sure, posting angry rants on message boards isn’t going to get you anywhere. Dana White gives UFC fans ample chance to get their voices heard, so spend that time contacting him on Twitter @DanaWhite, organising an online petition or writing the UFC an email. If enough sensible, reasonable people voice an opinion, then maybe, just maybe, our voices will start to be heard. Calling him a douche bag won’t help. A mature opinion might.
At the end of the day, UFC 120 will likely sell out, especially with the addition of the Fan Expo. There is little incentive for the UFC to change what is, for them, a winning formula. The fights look set to be great, and personally, I’m looking forward to what should be an entertaining few days.
None of that changes the fact that this is not a card that the UFC could take to Vegas and expect to sell tickets and PPVs. Something needs to change, whether it’s the quality of the fight cards, or the UFC managing fans’ expectations regarding the quality of events we can expect on our shores. Promises need to be kept, or not made in the first place. Otherwise, fans in the UK will start to feel like second class citizens…
…and that isn’t good enough.
By Brad Wharton
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Cheers for the mention brad
Personally I think there’d be a lot of takers for my suggestion, certainly me and my mates would start attending again. The UFC clearly has massively loyal fans here if they still fork out big money for the crap we’ve had lately, surely these fans would still fork out the same money five hours later to see some meaningful matches involving the bigggest stars in the world and a title fight??? Surely????
Your last paragraph summed it up perfectly for me. Don’t tell blatant porkies Dana about title fights we’re never going to have and just call these shows what they are UK Fight Nights and lower the ticket price, so that way nobody’s disappointed when we get given shite like this!
Good article Brad but you didn’t have to write anything past a few sentences to understand it … I’m Canadian … we get shit cards too …. the reason is (for both of us) simple … here’s my article on it:
Canada and UK get shit cards because people go anyways. Period
Done. That’s my article that’s all you need to know. If the US folks got these cards they wouldn’t sell any tickets. Canadians and UK folks are suckers. Plus, we’re evidently bored out of our minds. We go see anything.
But my one sentence and a word article wouldn’t make for a Sunday Supplement would it despite it being a fact and despite nothing more needing to be said.
Add on:
Then again your main events are way worse than ours … We get GSP while you get Bisping! LOL Bisping as a main eventor?????? Christ I’d be pissed on that alone. Bisping = Mediocrity … never will be a champion and probably will never win enough to get a title shot even. Gate keeper for life.
Nothing personal against the fighters or the fights that have been put together for this card individually, however my issue is with the amount of these types of fights that are put on the UK cards without the ‘main event’ level headliner.
With the ticket price for attending a UFC show for me it just isn’t worth paying the high price when Bisping and Hardy etc have taken up prime slots on previous UK shows. Again nothing personal against the fighters, but I dislike what seems to be a very ‘tribal’ attitude towards the UK live shows, and in my opinion Bisping has proven to be a mid level fighter so shouldn’t be headling the show.
UK UFC’s do not live up to the name value of what brand UFC is in the US, yes the UK live shows are well put together and likely they will be good exciting fights, but the high ticket price is not matched value for money with the UK shows imo, if the ticket prices were brought down to reflect lesser fighters/names or debuting UK fighters than I would happily go. At present I feel I am being miss-sold.
It is this tribal attitude of filling the UK cards with UK fighters that bothers me the most, I attended the first run of EURO shows 70, 75, 80, 85, 89, 93 and 95, but didn’t attend 105 near where I live because it had so many of the fighters I had already paid to see multiple times, whilst I was longing to see many of the UFC fighters who have made me such a fan of the sport in the first place.
There is a video interview of Dana White online at the moment saying how the UFC do not need to fill a card with homegrown fighters when they go abroad, and the sport is not tribal and fans are fans of fighters wherever they come from – this is exactly how I feel, so I completely agree with him – BUT they have not proven themselves to follow this with the UK.
I am left disappointed with the news/rumours of 120, wanting to pay my money to attend and experience the brilliant live experience of the UFC show, but yet again will not be going.
Imo since the injury problems of 85 in London the UK shows have lost the comparability of the US UFC brand name , since then we have had 89 in Birmingham without a main event (to me Bisping Leben is/was not main event worthy) and 95 which ended up with Sanchez Stevenson as the headliner (again not main event worthy) 105 I have to respect Randy for stepping up but unfortunately I thought it was a bad match up with Vera’s performance record and imo it turned out a poor fight. All the while those cards were also loaded with UK fighters
Each of those events had tickets on sale early and it felt like each time they were scrambling for a main event. I feel they just didn’t bother putting main events on for 89 and 95, and by that time I had lost my trust in the UFC so didn’t buy tickets for 105.
I can understand this being a fine card for those in the US to watch free, but not for attending live in the UK. Maybe UFC doesn’t mind replacing fans while growing the sport in the UK, because 120 would still be great to attend live for someone who hasn’t experienced the show live, although it lacks the UFC star names, but I have no desire to pay to see fighters I have seen countless times.
My post is aimed at the UFC boss’es and how they organise the UK cards, and not the individual fighters at all. All the respect in the world to the fighters who step up, work so hard and risk what they do.
I really want to go to a UFC show again but have to stand by my principles and not pay to go to 120 as it stands now, I will be voting with my wallet. I think more fans who are also dissapointed need to stand by their principles too and not pay to go, otherwise these cards will continue like this.
@assman
As much as I loathe bizbing he WILL get a title shot, Dana’s desperate to give him one, hell Hardy got one after beating nobody.
Bizbing’s got Akiyama who’s a Leben clone minus the power, nothing for him to worry about there. Then he’ll rematch an ageing punch drunk Wanderlai and this time get a decision win, that’s three on the trot and BINGO – Title Shot!!!
That’s another thing that winds me up, Hardy’s title shot! They ram him down our throats at every UK show, building him up a fanbase, then when he gets his title shot, they put it on in America??? Go figure!
I also think the last run of UK shows are how they are simply becuase Zuffa can – it works for them, Zuffa have likely worked out all the financial numbers and done their market research etc, and if the shows are selling out or nearly selling out, with fans wishing for better fighters/names but still buying a ticket anyway, they have no need to bring over expensive higher paid star fighters.
120 may well sell out, but I dont think Bisping has the hometown advantage in London as much, London adds so much extra expense over somewhere like Manchester, that it might put off a few who would of gone to a Manc show… Then you have the ticket sellers adding booking fee’s and transaction fee’s to add on to the tickcet price, it quickly adds up.
95 was the last event I went to, and I learnt my lesson from that show, there was similar dissapointment and complaints (rightly so when ticket prices are taken into account with the headline fight as it was) The venue had noticable empty areas, I was a Fight Club member in the second to front row of the top teir (I used to buy lower teir seats but stopped after they put on the non-main event of Bisping Leben, so tentitavely bought cheaper tickcets for 95 incase they pulled the same stunt again) and the front row had about 3 people in it, so people with Fight Club purchased tickets either didnt turn up or couldnt sell them on due to the lackluster card.
I’m not going to argue that people thought it was a greta night of fights, my point is the premium we are charged for a lesser product, the UK shows do not live up to the UFC Brand ticket price.
95 was not, and nor is 120 in my opinion a card fit for London, the capital of England and a major global city.
@Kiss_Saves_Santa – I couldnt agree more about your point about forcing a title shot for Hardy then not even putting it on in the UK!
The excitement of anticipation is taken out of the UK cards, as we always know that Bisping, Hardy and the like are going to take up the prime co and main slots, there is no surprise or joy to hear that our favourite fighters we watch on the US shows under the UFC banner are heading over to fight in front of us live!
I understand why we are always put on Spike tv, but that also dissapoints fans as soon as we read it because it equals a likely lacklustre card heading our way! Other foreign cards have been on PPV not so long ago, so why can’t we have at least one PPV worthy show once in a while – maybe have a big show when the UFC visits the capital and then the lesser UK fighter heavy shows elsewhere in the Country where it is cheaper to get to and visit.
Where did you learn about this? Can you give me the source?
Good article. Please MMABAY, you need to run with this, and lobby UFC and make them sure they know how we feel. Bisping vs Sexyama is great, but its a slap in a face for a main event. Are we the family member they grudge seeing?
We deserve a decent important main event. Our events these days since 08 are basically fight nights.
@Chris
Exactly mate, I could perfectly understand the 120 fight card as it stands now so long as it had a proper main event and even co-main event added. UK events lack the top 2 matchups on a fight card.
UFC 89 – 18 Oct 2008 (UK) Bisping v Leben
UFC 90 – 25 Oct 2008 (US) A.Silva v Cote
UFC 95 – 21 Feb 2009 (UK) Sanchez v Stevenson
UFC 96 – 7 Mar 2009 (US) Jackson v Jardine
UFC 105 – 14 Nov (UK) Couture v Vera
UFC 106 – 21 Nov (US) Ortiz v Griffin 2
UFC 120 – 16 Oct 2010 (UK) Bisping v Akiyama
UFC 121 – 23 Oct 2010 (US) Lesnar v Velasquez
The dates clearly show that that only a week after every UK event theres a much bigger event in the US. Lets face it (like most people have stated) the UK events are pretty much of the same level of UFN events in terms of the quality of fighters.
I think its pretty clear to see that the UK events have become nothing more than the odd event to keep the UK fans ‘pleased’ and an opportunity for us to cheer on our home grown fighters (as well as the chance for the likes of bisping and hardy to fight on home soil).
Maybe the downfall for UK UFC fans is that we have a few decent home grown fighters in the UFC and therefore the UFC see them as being adequate to fill the cards and therefore there’s no real need to bring over the ‘big’ names. Canada got Machida v Shogun 2, Abu Dhabi had 2 title fights, Australia got Noguira v Velasquez and Germany had the Franklin v Wanderlei fight, so why has the UK consistenly for the past few events got sub standard cards?! The UK market is way more valuable to the UFC than any of those (with the exception of Canada) and thats evident with the fact we’ve got the next fan expo, so I don’t think the issue lies with Dana and the Fertitta’s not valueing the UK market, but more with the fact that we will continue to sell the cards out regardless of the quality of fights as long as the main UK fighters are on the card…